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True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation
Studio BOTH/AND
True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.
Episodes
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0803 | Waiting, Watching
· 41 min
New files, new law enforcement relationships, and new experts take the research team to Morton, Olympia, and Lake Quinault in Washington to re-examine some previously investigated cases: Gary Shawn Bryant, Jonathan Corey, and Delmar Sample. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Kathleen, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Too...
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Prepisode: 0109 | Ghosts
· 33 min
Prepare for next week's episode with this revisit to episode 0109.In this episode, we spend a lot of time in the woods. Plus, Israel meets someone new; and learns to adapt and evolve his methodologies.This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothandWritten, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Feat...
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0802 | The Mines of Eastern Washington
· 47 min
Correspondence between Ted Halla and Washington State Police sheds new light on the male-female couple and Israel Keyes. Remains found near the Hunters, Washington property lead the team underground.This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Kathleen and Jordan Taylor. And research assistance by Michael Beers, Michelle Tooker. TRAVEL...
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Prepisode: 0708 | In Eastern Washington
· 33 min
Take a listen back and prepare and refresh yourself for the next episode of TCB.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.
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0801 | Good People
· 42 min
Josh sets the stage for a hyper-focused eighth season of True Crime Bullsh**. New connections are made, leading to a better understanding of how all of Israel Keyes's crimes are connected. A plot of land in New Hampshire is explored, as is a rented cabin in upstate New York. And the team makes its way back to Hunters, WA after receiving some critical new information from the FBI.This episode was w...
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Prepisode: 0705 | Hunters
· 22 min
Go back in time and re-listen to this episode, to prepare you for the season 8 premiere on October 5.We first covered Hunters, Washington back in season two. And while our reporting on it paused, our investigation into it did not. Jordan and an anonymous source have spent years digging into Hunters and the abandoned farmhouse there. And even as we thought there was nothing left to find, new inform...
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True Crime Bullsh**: Season 8 Trailer
· 4 min
Season 8 launches on October 5 and dives into Keyes's upbringing, life, and connections in Washington state and how they impacted and defined Keyes's crimes across the country. We look at new cases, follow-up on past cases, and get into the woods looking for caches and interviewing more people from Keyes's life. PATREONwww.patreon.com/studiobothandTROVA TRIP to Sloveniahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/e...
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Retrospective 5: Kelly and The Pandemic
· 55 min
In Retrospective 5, Josh discusses how a family loss created massive life changes during the creation of TCB season 2. And how the pandemic and Kelly Cochran led to some massive podcast changes, gambles, and fears. 10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Sloveniahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slovenia-with...
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Israel Keyes Interview: April 30, 2012
· 1 h 24 min
In this interview:• The FBI discuss Keyes's competency and psych evals• Keyes details the creation of his silencer• Keyes discusses various accounts of stalking• Keyes shares his grand plan and dreams of doing something big10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Sloveniahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slove...
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Israel Keyes Interview: May 16, 2012 - Part 2
· 1 h 06 min
In this interview:• Keyes tells the FBI about a New York homicide• Keyes details the Tupper Lake bank robbery• Keyes talks about other active areas in New England• The FBI finds out about the boat10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh...
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Israel Keyes Interview: May 16, 2012 - Part 1
· 1 h 13 min
In this interview:• The FBI detail their four part plan to negotiate their needs and Keyes's• Keyes accidentally hints at several details surrounding his unknown crimes• Keyes grapples with media attention• Keyes starts to spill10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-a...
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Israel Keyes Interview: October 30, 2012
· 1 h 30 min
In this interview:• The FBI goes over items seized from Spurr Lane and Constable• Keyes's early years in Neah Bay• Keyes's early crimes in Colville• Keyes's various watercraft and how he used them in crimes• Keyes's using friends as unwitting accomplices• The Washington state caches• Julie Harris• and more10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversa...
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Retrospective 4: Voices
· 49 min
In Retrospective 4, Josh discusses how massive life changes coalesced with the creation of the first season of TCB. How he isolated himself entirely to both heal and get into the head-spaces of the people he'd spent so much time researching and writing about. Plus, what went into creating the season one finale.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anni...
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Retrospective 3: Darkness
· 50 min
In Retrospective 3, Josh discusses how 24 harrowing hours changed his life and the course of True Crime Bullsh**. He discusses how an incident re-shaped his vision for the first episode of the podcast, and his view on true crime and its darkness. Plus, the impact of that first episode on listeners, and the impact of those listeners on Josh.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-deta...
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Introducing Framed: Season 3
· 3 min
Aaron Habel, of Generation Why, has just launched the third season of his long-form investigative podcast Framed. In this season, Aaron looks into the death of Clair County Community College student Scott Macklem as well as the man convicted of his murder, Frederick Freeman. Was Frederick actually responsible for the death of Scott Macklem? Was their sufficient evidence at trial? And what actually...
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Israel Keyes Interview: June 1, 2012
· 2 h 02 min
In this interview, Keyes meets with Detective Murtie from Essex PD to discuss the Currier's double-murder. He also offers insights into his strategies, his home abductions, his MO, his time in Vermont, and more.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ec...
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Retrospective 2: Investigations
· 58 min
Retrospective 2 takes us to the origin of the investigation; where Josh's interest in storytelling evolved into his obsession of needing to know everything. And it started in a surprising place: a bound book of correspondence between two teenage girls and their landlord. What started as comedic found writing, became a mystery that people could not let go. And as Josh made his way through it, while...
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July 12, 2012, part 2
· 1 h 04 min
In the second half of Israel Keyes's 7/12 FBI interview, he discusses trophies, burglaries, arsons, following other serial killers, the women he dated, the relationship between his violent crimes and arsons and robberies, and more. This audio will be incredibly important in season 7 of TCB, launching October 5.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anni...
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July 12, 2012, part 1
· 1 h 02 min
In this interview, Keyes discusses the Texas and Eagle River caches, blood on his boat, sex workers, cemeteries, Ted Bundy, Dean Koontz, his time in Texas, and more.Part 2 will be out on June 21.TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-w...
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Retrospective 1: The Ignition
· 1 h 25 min
To celebrate 10 years in podcasting, we're spending the summer going back in time and both highlighting key episodes and telling the stories behind them; you’ll get new behind-the-scenes information about what was happening in life, in various investigations, and in the world that impacted these important episodes and their podcasts. You’ll learn how Josh started podcasting, how he started investi...
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The Butterfly Effect: Identifying the Does, one case at a time
· 24 min
Every year over 4,000 unidentified bodies are recovered in the United States. 600,000 people are reported as missing, and thousands more go unreported. The Butterfly Effect is an investigative podcast that seeks to reunite the nameless with their identities.Subscribe to The Butterfly EffectBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-inves...
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October 22, 2012: Part 2
· 46 min
In the second half of this interview, Keyes shares his thoughts on other serial killers like BTK, Ted Bundy, and The Green River Killer. Then he discusses his plans for the future, losing control, and how the facade of his life was moving further and further away from who he really was. He also goes into detail regarding the New York victim, the Curriers, breaking into homes, arsons, and fatherhoo...
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October 22, 2012: Part 1
· 1 h 15 min
In this interview, Keyes discusses publicity and strategy, the impacts of his crimes on his family, searching for remains, the NY victim, lies he's told about his time in Texas, and serial killers he's read about and studied.TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your f...
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May 29, 2012
· 1 h 02 min
This is Keyes's first interview following his failed escape attempt from court. They discuss the Curriers, the NY victim, negotiating publicity, the boat, Washington jurisdictions, speculation, protecting his family, and more.SPONSORS:Quince: Go to Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 365-day returnsBetterHelp: Go to BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.Become a supporter of this podca...
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SLC Meet-up is TONIGHT
· 1 min
Unfortunately, due to scheduling, the SLC meet-up has been moved to tonight, Saturday April 18, from 5-7pm at The Vault bar at the Kimpton Monaco Hotel in downtown SLC. Sorry for the inconvenience.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.
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0714 | Changes
· 43 min
Season finale.TCB will be back in October. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Jordan Taylor.Sources include:• KARK.com• 4029TV.com• The Northwest Arkansas Democrat GazetteSPONSORS:• Factor: 50% poff and free breakfast for a year. • Quince: Free shipping and 265-day returns. • BetterHelp: Get...
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Israel Keyes - March 17, 2012 / TCB Announcement
· 1 h 38 min
Josh makes an announcement about this season and next season of the show. Then shares the entire 3/17/2012 interview between Keyes and the Texas Rangers.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.
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The Final Keyes Interview
· 1 h 17 min
On November 29, 2012, Keyes gave what would be his final FBI interview. It is one of his most revealing, both in his candor about his crimes and in his tells and contradictions. In this interview, Keyes discusses Crescent Lake, four Washington victims, Tupper Lake, blood found on his boat, knives he used in murders, maps found in his Constable house, and more. There are also some very interesting...
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The Final Keyes Interview (Ad-free)
· 1 h 16 min
On November 29, 2012, Keyes gave what would be his final FBI interview. It is one of his most revealing, both in his candor about his crimes and in his tells and contradictions. In this interview, Keyes discusses Crescent Lake, four Washington victims, Tupper Lake, blood found on his boat, knives he used in murders, maps found in his Constable house, and more. There are also some very interesting...
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0713 | Houston
· 46 min
The team returns to Texas to look at a case, which Jordan has been following for four years, that involves a suspicious death, an arson, and an abandoned house. And this case may just shed light on some of Keyes's odder travels and some new and unsettling information on the Azle bank robbery.This episode was written, researched, and produced by Jordan Taylor. With editing and writing by Josh Hallm...
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